Bargain Basement / seconds / b stock / one-offs / used instruments
Here we list items that are either end of the line, or used, or that have some slight flaw, or were special finds. In each case, when it's gone, it's gone. I try hard to keep this updated so the chances are very high that if you see it here, it is still here.
For all items listed here you must make contact in person please, there is no online option to buy because stock changes frequently. Payment can be made by card number over the phone or by bank transfer or paypal.
Don't forget ALL my prices include UK postage
Used Antoni 3/4
Trade-in. Basic bow with a reasonable amount of hair, shaped styrofoam case (not Antoni) £40
NEW SG50 violin and seconds case 3/4
Budget model from The Soundpost which is either discontinued or never has been generally available. Still solid wood, however, and the set up is actually pretty good. The case has some dents to the styrofoam. There is a bow that is the original but it is hilariously awful (though it is straight), and the typical small block of rosin is also supplied. These outfits (under different brand names) are typically sold by large retailers for between £60 and £70 (presumably plus postage) £50
Used Reghin violin outfit 3/4
Case in good condition. Erich Steiner brand bow which is well haired and straight. The violin has quite a lot of cosmetic damage (no cracks, but a number of chips). Wittner tailpiece and Prelude strings (new) will be fitted as the present factory strings are pretty bad. This comes from the same town in Romania where Gligas are made - but not the same workshop. It's the other maker's equivalent of a Genial 2. Sensible beginner's buy at £100
Rather a strange upgrade for a Stentor but these strings give a darker tone and cost £34.56 on the string zone which is about the cheapest place there is for strings. Traded in for a much better instrument. Save a bit on the new price and have it sounding better too. £110New seconds Primavera 90 outfit 1/4
Very trivial cosmetic issue (tiny chip) RRP £112. £90
New seconds Rainbow violin outfit 1/2 size pink with Glasser bow
Cosmetic issues a chip on the back. RRP £135 (outfit price). The usual bow has been replaced with Glasser's coloured premium fibreglass bow which is distinctly superior to the Chinese bows normally supplied with this outfit. The Glasser bows have a lifetime guarantee for a start. They have a list price in the USA of $109. The UK wholesaler concerned sells the usual coloured bow at list price £38.50 and the plain brown Glasser fibreglass at list price £69.49 (they don't sell the coloured Glassers but obviously those would be more expensive). The outfit also includes a good block of rosin rather than the tiny block it usually comes with. Shaped styrofoam case. £90
New painted 1/2 size violin, Donald Duck designTruly unique, I am convinced there is no other like this in the world. Perfect for passing down as a family heirloom. I am not giving it away! Actually dates from 2006 but never sold so it probably sounds far better than a new one. £500 (yes obviously there is a significant premium there for its uniqueness). See it here http://elidaviolins.co.uk/pages/painted-violin
Slight cosmetic damage to the violin (a couple of chips). £70Used Zeller violin outfit 4/4 - two available, £200 each (list price £295).
1. Very little use by the look of it. The P&H bow is fully haired, the violin has only very minor marks. Shaped styrofoam case does have signs of use but is still in good condition. Nicely set up with a Teller bridge at the correct height, but it does only have factory strings.
2. Older style hardshell case, the violin and bow both had some sort of class number written on them. Other than that, the violin is in very nice condition. It has had a new bridge professionally fitted and Pirastro Tonica strings (you can price up these upgrades yourself, they more than outweigh the painted numbers!).
Used B&H 400 violin outfit (Strunal)
Excellent condition with only a couple of trivial cosmetic chips. Dominant strings. Fully haired brazilwood bow. Hard woodshell shaped case. Sensible buy for an adult beginner. £150
Very lightly used Westbury violin outfit 4/4
If you saw this in with a batch of new Westburys you would not be able to pick out which one was used, and neither would I. I doubt if it was played at all. Save a bit here. £220Used Sandu Stroe massaranduba wood violin bow 1/2 size
These are nice bows. Clearly used but still fully haired and straight. £50
Very lightly used Hidersine 5069C violin bow (1/2 size)
Traded in towards one of my superior European instruments. You would not be able to tell this bow from new. List price is nearly £200. Save a bit on that if you have a young player good enough to need this quality of bow. £130
Violin cases sizes 3/4 to 1/4
I have many new seconds (and thirds and fourths!) cases in need of good homes. There is no point in throwing these away so they are all available at £10 to £40 (including UK postage of course) depending on what they are and how bad they look. All are fully functional. The cheaper or worst affected cases are free with a violin. Make contact and tell me what you want and I'll see what I can do.
New Primavera 100 3/4 size cello outfit
I am mentioning this because they are still here despite me having the lowest price in the UK (except perhaps for one that is sent without any set up or check at all). Goodness knows why it hasn't gone. Pick it up from my normal product pages for £500. List price is now £670.
New Seconds but significantly upgraded Primavera 100 cello outfit 3/4 size
The seconds bit: there are a couple of chips in it, not large and obviously will not affect anything. The upgraded bit: Prelude strings (list price £71.74), a genuine Wittner Ultra tailpiece (list price £26.17) and a professionally fitted bridge (just price that up at any specialist shop!) and professional set up. You know, the sort you would get in a bricks and mortar specialist shop of the type that won't tell you the prices on the website. Schroetter cello bow (this is an upgrade on what is normally supplied with this outfit). Also a block of A&B rosin (list price £5.13), and the bag will be at least as good as those normally supplied with this cello (probably better, it depends where I get it from). This is a very sensible buy in this price range for any parent who realises that cellos pick up cosmetic damage very easily indeed! £600
New Seconds but significantly upgraded Primavera 100 cello outfit 1/2 size
The seconds bit: you'll probably struggle to find anything wrong with this cello, I did. A couple of tiny dents in the varnish on the table. I wouldn't have sent it back for that but evidently someone did and that's how I ended up with it. The upgraded bit: Prelude strings (list price £71.74), a genuine Wittner Ultra tailpiece (list price £26.17) and a professionally fitted bridge (just price that up at any specialist shop!) and professional set up. You know, the sort you would get in a bricks and mortar specialist shop of the type that won't tell you the prices on the website. Bow as normally supplied with this outfit. Also a block of A&B rosin (list price £5.13), and the bag will be at least as good as those normally supplied with this cello (probably better, it depends where I get it from). List price is £610. This is a very sensible buy in this price range and honestly if it had been me buying a cello in this price range I would not have quibbled at all about the dents in the varnish, it will pick up a lot worse than that very quickly! £600
Mollenhauer Ninjo new seconds - the cork came off so I had to fit another. Mollenhauer supplied it but I didn't do as good a job as they do so the cork doesn't quite meet. Doesn't affect playing in any way. The Ninjo was a very popular wood recorder that came below the student and I am sure I was not the only one bitterly disappointed when it was discontinued. £30.
Bought as an experiment, these very beautiful wood stands are made by Gliga. Height adjustable, the desk part can be removed for table top use but most people will want to have this in the music room as a lovely piece of furniture. The desk angle adjusts at least to two different positions. Unfortunately the first one I opened has some cosmetic damage including a chip out of the ledge where it is visible. Nothing that can't be well disguised with an appropriate furniture polish or those crayons that used to be sold for this very purpose by Kleeneze (guess what I did for a living at one time!). I haven't opened the other one, these are solid heavy items which I don't want hanging around unwrapped. I have the dark stained version. £100