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One-offs, B stock and used modern instruments

Here we list items that are either end of the line, or items I don't normally sell, or used, or that have some slight flaw, or were special finds.  In each case, when it's gone, it's gone.  I try hard to keep this updated so the chances are very high that if you see it here, it is still here.  Antique instruments have their own section.

For all items listed here you must make contact in person please, there is no online option to buy because stock changes frequently.  Payment can be made by card number over the phone or by bank transfer or paypal.

Don't forget ALL my prices include UK postage

 VIOLINS

 

Used Andreas Zeller violin outfit 4/4  

Very little use by the look of it.  The P&H bow is fully haired, the violin has only very minor marks.  Shaped styrofoam case does have signs of use but is still in good condition.  Nicely set up with a Teller bridge at the correct height, which suggests to me that it has had some extra set up work, although I cannot absolutely guarantee that, but it does only have factory strings.  List price is £295. £180 

 

Used Westbury violin outfit 4/4

Violin and case unmarked as far as I can see.  Violin fitted with Dominant strings.  Not a lot of hair on the bow so realistically you will need a new one List price is £300.  £200

New Gewa Allegro violin 4/4
This is new and perfect. The only reason for listing it here is that it is not an item I normally sell.  £200

 

New Westbury violin 4/4
Violin only but with the bridge properly adjusted (it was far too thick).  The outfit list price is £300.  Worth considering if you prefer to choose your own case.  £170
New Gewa La Passione Venezia violin outfit 4/4 (case is slight seconds and shaped)
Listed here because 1. I don't normally sell Gewas  2. The case is shaped, whereas the present incarnation has a rectangular case 3. One of the case zips sticks so realistically it has to be opened and closed using just the one zip (they go all the way round of course).  The shaped case has the Gewa logo and the outfit even comes in the original Gewa box.  The Venezia is quite a dark brown.  £240
Used Paesold Andrew Schoetter 801 violin 4/4
German made, discontinued model.  Solid woods and ebony fittings of course.  Pro-arte strings and Wittner tailpiece.  Two cosmetic issues, one of which is very trivial.  Photos available.  Includes a basic shaped styrofoam case and a J. La Salle bow (Chinese made, fully lined with abalone slide, straight and fully haired).  £280 
 
4/4 Chinese workshop violin, very lightly used
Originated (well, after import from China obviously) from another specialist seller who fitted with with an Aubert bridge and Larsen Tzigane strings and a Wittner tailpiece.  Professionally set up of course.  Ebony pegs with white decoration - a rather attractive violin all round in fact.  Original price at that shop was £399 but that was in 2015 and Chinese prices have gone up a lot since then due to the exchange rate.  You won't tell the difference from new apart from the fact that it has finger placement stickers on.  Traded in for a Gama.  Highly recommend that you try this one if you are looking for something Chinese in this price range.  Pictures available.  £350 
New Strunal 3310 with scratch 4/4
Dominant strings, Wittner tailpiece.  has a long scratch on the left upper bout.  £550
New Strunal 3310 violin 4/4 with boxwood fittings.  Varnish blemish.
Mail for pictures.  The boxwood fittings make it look a bit special.  Tonica strings.  £600

 

 Used Heritage Strad violin (from The Soundpost) 4/4

Used by an adult and therefore indistinguishable from new.  Fitted with Pirastro Obligato strings.  List price is £1560.  £1000 

Used Forenza Uno 3/4 size violin and case

Not the sort of quality level I usually sell but I acquired this from an auction.  My guess is that someone played it for a very short time before the bow fell apart because the violin itself shows no signs of damage that I can see and neither does the case.  These bows however are ghastly and frankly if they last more than a week or two you are doing well (check out some of the reviews out there for confirmation of this!)   However  if you buy a cheap but reasonable bow to go with it (i.e. not the £3.99 including postage variety!) you will pay no more in total than you would if you bought a new outfit of this brand and model and you will actually have something that is usable which will be an improvement on the new ones.  It is of course of very cheap construction with painted purfling but it does basically work.  Except the bow.  £30

 

Used Antoni 3/4 size outfit

Case and bow are not original but of similar quality. £40

NEW SG50 violin and bow, and "B stock" case 3/4

Budget model from The Soundpost which is either discontinued or never has been generally available.  Still solid wood, however, and the set up is actually pretty good.  The case has some dents to the styrofoam.  There is a bow that is the original but it is hilariously awful (though it is straight), and the typical small block of rosin is also supplied.  These outfits (under different brand names) are typically sold by large retailers for between £60 and £70 and yes I am sure the bow is always that bad!  £50 

Used but upgraded Cathedral blue violin outfit 3/4

New bow (wood, brown), new case (shaped styrofoam), professionally fitted new bridge, Prelude strings.  So it all sounds pretty good and is a better bet than a new one from an online giant who sells them straight out of the box.  The violin itself is in excellent condition and the blue is an attractive blue washed finish.  £100

  New painted 1/2 size violin, Donald Duck design

Truly unique, I am convinced there is no other like this in the world.  Perfect for passing down as a family heirloom.  I am not giving it away!   Actually dates from 2006 but never sold so it probably sounds far better than a new one.  Violin only.  £500 (yes obviously there is a significant premium there for its uniqueness). See it here http://elidaviolins.co.uk/pages/painted-violin

 

 

Used 1/4 size Gliga Gems 1 violin outfit

Dates from 2011.  Has finger placement stickers but other than that the violin itself seems to be completely unmarked.  It is better flamed than they are these days and really very pretty.  Fitted with a Wittner centre mounted chinrest.  Comes in a rectangular case which is still functional but has clear signs of use, in particular the buckle is at the point of breaking, it closes fine at the moment but once it breaks it will be a matter of opening it once with a pen and then cutting the buckle strap off.  It will still close perfectly well with the two zips.  Also the straps are missing but I might be able to find you a pair of those if you really want them.  Two bows are supplied, both fully haired.  The main one is a Sandu Stroe (half lined, massaranduba wood) which I would be selling separately for £70 new if I could still get them.  It is almost straight and has just a little thumb wear to the grip.  The second is a cheap Chinese one that was bought as a spare and is somewhat bent.  Also new Dominant strings were fitted at some point but the old ones have been retained and are therefore included as spares.  This is a nice buy for someone.  New price for my standard outfit is £420 but that would normally be with a cheaper bow.  £330

 Used 1/4 size superior Chinese violin outfit

This is the violin I sell at £400 (violin only), supplied with a brand new Gliga case and with the bow that was originally sold with it, which is the carbon fibre patterned bow I sell at £70.  The bow is missing some hair so may need to be replaced in a few months time.  Or it might last until the violin is outgrown.  The violin itself is an attractive dark brown colour, with no visible marks that I can see, and is fitted with Dominant strings and a Wittner ultra tailpiece.  £350 

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 VIOLAS

Used 13 inch Gliga Gems 1 outfit

These don't come in very often so if you want it, don't wait.  The viola itself is a bit battered, in particular there is a chunk of wood off one of the edges and sticky tapes on the fingerboard to show where the fingers go.  No this will not affect playing!  Dates from 2011.  Dominant strings, fitted Despiau bridge, Wittner tailpiece.  Brand new case though.  Glasser fibreglass viola bow (not violin unlike most violas of this size!) which is not a model I usually sell (this one has the plain imitation leather grip, I normally sell the wire grip version) but the US list price is $75.  The bow is fully haired and straight.  I will provide a new block of rosin too if you remind me.  This is a good buy for someone. New price is £470 (which admittedly would be with a more expensive case).  Pictures  available.  £300

New Primavera 200 15 inch outfit with one faulty zip

The zip pull has come off one of the zips.  The case still completely closes with the other zip  £170

 



CELLOS

 

New 4/4 cello outfit

This one has no label but it does have solid wood and inlaid purfling and the bridge is at the correct height.   Pegs and fingerboard are not ebony.  Tailpiece has four built in adjusters.  Comes with a bag but I don't know whether it is the bag that is supposed to be with it.  Student bow and rosin included.  This is a reasonable buy for a beginner and you could do a lot worse.  £300

New 4/4 Mayflower cello outfit, upgraded

Mayflower was The Soundpost's budget model before the Primavera 90, so this is old stock but don't let that put you off because this one has a new Despiau fitted bridge, new soundpost and end pin unit and is fitted with Prelude strings. That is at least £100 worth of upgrades even at cost.  Better buy than a new Primavera 90?  Yes it is.  The padded bag is the same as the one supplied with the Primavera 90 but the bow will be a Hidersine.  A decent block of rosin will be supplied too.  £450

 

New seconds 4/4 Stentor 2 cello outfit upgraded

This is an interesting one.  Somehow or other it has sustained a large varnish blemish on the front just under the end of the fingerboard and it looks as if someone (presumably at the shop it came from, this was from a closing down sale) tried to remove the blemish but actually made it worse.  Pictures available.  New quality bridge has been professionally fitted and that is a significant upgrade. The padded bag is different, I will be supplying a Primavera one instead of a Stentor one (the cello and bag got separated).  Also it has a Hidersine bow rather than a stentor one.  But it does have a proper block of A&B rosin. £500

Lightly used 4/4 Stentor 2 cello outfit

A couple of small chips to the scroll and a scratch on the base. otherwise difficult to distinguish from new except that it has the old style black padded bag.  Bow is fully haired and reasonably straight.  Bridge is very low which suits many players at an elementary level.  Save a bit on a new one - you won't notice the difference.  Pictures available.  £450

Lightly used and slight repairs - Primavera 100 cello outfit 3/4 size

Came from me new and was then used for a few weeks until the fingerboard came loose (minor job, you just reglue it) and a couple of small cracks appeared in the ribs near the neck for no reason that I can discern.  I have tried to photograph those but so far without success, they have been properly repaired so don't show very much.  The luthier it was taken to by the original buyer said there were nails in it(!) which was completely false and presumably said as a sales ploy (not quite the worst I have heard but certainly in the top three).  Anyway, the fingerboard has been reglued, so have the cracks and they were never going to go anywhere anyway.  A couple of sticky labels are on the fingerboard where the teacher put in position dots, otherwise apart from the issue declared it is in excellent condition.  Considering that a certain large retailer gives only a couple of hundred pounds off for a huge crack in the back of the cello, I think this one is a good buy for a parent wanting a reasonable student instrument on a budget.  The bridge height is low which will be welcomed by most players (to be fair that is how Primaveras come these days).  Bow and bag and rosin all included too.  £220 

 

VIOLIN BOW

VIOLIN SHOULDER RESTS (!)

Rather a strange thing to find amongst the used items but I happen to have three used Wolf forte secondo rests.  Two are 4/4-3/4 size and of these one is as new but has a dent in the foam - I am certain that was there when it was first purchased.  £20.  The other has more signs of wear but is still totally serviceable £20.  Also a small one 1/8 to 1/16 which has signs of wear.  £10.  All prices includes UK postage. 

VIOLA BOW

New seconds ("B stock") two star pernambuco Orchestra bow from The Soundpost

Round stick, nickel mounted.  The leather has receded slightly which means that the underlay of the grip protrudes a bit.  Won't affect playing.  List price £238.  This is offered at cost plus postage £165


CELLO BOWS

Schroetter AS26C 4/4  new seconds
Fully lined, imitation whalebone grip, octagonal stick.  There is a strip of hair missing from the middle though this does not affect playing.  Almost worth getting this rehaired.  £30.
Schroetter AS24C 3/4 new seconds
One eye is missing.  I don't think you will feel that when playing. £25

 

CELLO CASES

4/4 Stentor styrofoam case, new but no straps. £100

4/4 Styrofoam case with wheels, used

Good condition apart from what appears to be a material patch on the front.  Fully functional but no straps.  £80

 

4/4 stryofoam case with wheels in need of wheel repair
Apart from the wheel it is in good condition apart from what appears to be a material patch on the front.  No straps.  As for the wheel, the hwel unit itself is fine but it has come unscrewed and I don't have the screws.  These wheels screw directly into the styrofoam and at the moment you can see the styrofoam but whether the screws have come out because the holes have worn too large, and whether it can be screwed back in the same place or not, I don't know.  Perhaps this one might be best sold to someone local who can come and look and see if you think you can fix it.  It is usable without the wheels but if you take the wheels off you will see the foam.  £40 if collected.  £50 if posted but I am not prepared to guarantee that you will be able to reattach the wheel.
New 3/4 semi rigid cello case with insides probably missing.
This is a slightly strange one.  I got three of these cases and they appeared to be identical but with this one I have no idea how to attach the bits that are supposed to go inside it (the foam and neck restraints and so on).  After several attempts made by three of us to work it out, I was forced to conclude that perhaps the wrong bits have been supplied.  So assume it's just unfitted inside and would need something like a blanket to make it functional for carrying the cello around.  Might be best sold to someone local who can come and look and see if you think you will be able to do something with it.  Worth it if you an because the list price is £175.  I don't think there are any straps either.  £40 if collected or £50 if posted.